JEAN BAPTISTE (WICHEWASK) SPENCE (1812-1889)
MARIE MARGARET ROULETTE or MATWAYWEMIN (1816-1903)

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Jean Baptiste (Wichewask) SPENCE was born around 1807-11 at Cumberland House, son of an Indian woman named TCHE-TCHIT and John SPENCE of uncertain origins.

** I (Gary Still) have been researching the early SPENCE families for many years, and have always been confused by much of the information I found about this family. Keep in mind - As of the last update, no evidence has been presented that definitely indicates who Jean Baptiste’s parents were. All we have are theories and suggestions as follows:

Ida SPENCE (a descendant) from Web-searches: In his Scrip application, he says his father was _ SPENCE, an Orkneyman, and his mother was TCHE-TCHIT, a Swampee Indian woman. He could not rightly remember their names. Don’t forget when he applied for scrip he was 80 years old! He said he was born in 1807 at Cumberland House, NWT.

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Ed SPENCE, another great-great grandson, has presented another very interesting theory that Jean Baptiste may have been a son of Joseph SPENCE (1772-1756) along with many other interesting details. See his comments on the Forum at the link below.

Marriage to Marie ROULETTE aka METTWAYWEMIN
1834

Ida (from his Scrip): In 1834 Jean Baptiste married Marie ROULETTE or METTWAYWEMIN in Baie St. Paul on the Assiniboine River (See map below). In 1835their first child, Jean Baptiste Jr. was born at Sandy Bay on the east side of Lake Manitoba.

In 1851eldest son Jean Baptiste Jr. married Josephte SAUTEUSE in St Francois Xavier.

Gladstone
1852

It appears that it was some 17 years before their second child, Marie was recorded born in 1852 at Gladstone. ** That seems like a long time between children; perhaps there were other children who died in infancy.

Totogan
1854

The rest of Baptiste’s children were born at Totogan; Louis in 1854, John in 1856 and Eliza in 1860.

MHS: Totogan was on the fork of the Whitemud River and Rat Creek (now misnamed Willow Bend Creek). Totogan appears on the map of those surveys completed to 1874. Now, like many others, it is a cultivated field. Spring flooding was a problem for Totogan. Nearby on the Whitemud was 'The Landing' for the Hudson Bay lake boats. There was a considerable settlement attached to this enterprise. For nearly ten years a break-away group of Salteaux from YELLOW QUILL's Band lived in a village across the river from Totogan and upstream on Rat Creek. ** MORE ABOUT TOTOGAN in MHS

Aerial view of the former Totogan town site, established where the Rat
Creek in the foreground entered the Whitemud River in the background.
Lake Manitoba is visible in the back right corner of the photo. (September 2005)
(Source: Gordon Goldsborough)

On May 9, 1856son John was baptized byFather Jean Baptiste THIBAULT (1810-1879) on one of his first visits to White Mud River Band. ** MORE ABOUT JEAN BAPTISTE THIBAULT in DCBO
In 1864eldest son Jean Baptiste Jr. married a second time in St Francois Xavier to Marie KIPIPAYA who died in childbirth in 1866. In 1867 he married a third time to Louise FISHER in White Mud, daughter of Marie Anne (Indian) and Henry FISHER, a French Canadian.

Canadian Confederation
Red River Rebellion
Manitoba becomes a Province
1867-1870

On July 1, 1867the British colonies in North America were united under the British North American Act to become the Dominion of Canada. Sir John A MACDONALD (1815-1891) was appointed as Canada’s first Prime Minister; a month later he won the first federal election.William McDOUGALL (1822-1905) became the Minister of Public Works, and he began negotiations to acquire Rupert’s Land from the HBC, sending out surveyors to prepare the way for an expected influx of settlers.

On Oct 11, 1869, LouisRIEL (1844-1885) placed his foot on the surveyors’ chain to tell them their work was finished. This marked the beginning of a Red River Metis Rebellion.

Ida (from his Scrip): In 1869-70 Baptiste wintered at Fort Pelly.

On July 15,1870Manitobabecame the fifth province of Canada, the Canadian Government having acquired the territory previously governed by the HBC. The Rebellion was essentially over. On that date, according to his Scrip, Baptiste was still living in Totogan and Sprague & Frye lists their children that year asLouis(age 18), Mary (16), John (14), Ellen (8) and Eliza (age 6).

Treaty Number One
1871

On Aug 3, 1871Treaty Number One was signed by Chief YELLOW QUILL (O-ZAH-WAH-SKO-GWAN-NA-BE), leader of the Plains Ojibway known as the Portage Band, who tried to stop the whites from moving west of Portage la Prairie. This Treaty established three First Nations for the Portage Band in southern Manitoba. They are the Long Plain, Sandy Bay and Swan Lake First Nations. ** MORE ABOUT CHIEF YELLOW QUILL in WIKIPEDIA

Ojibway/ French mixed-bloods requested a reservation be set aside for them and the request was accepted, but the Half-breeds were required to move north to where the Town of Westbourne is now located. The new Half-Breed Reserve is named Whitemud.

In the early and mid-1870’s YELLOW QUILL and his followers commenced an exodus to the Qu’Appelle Valley of Saskatchewan and it became necessary to negotiate with him once again. On Aug 24, 1876 YELLOW QUILL signed Adhesion Treaty Number Four. The Whitemud residents however did not recognize YELLOW QUILL as their leader; they remained in Manitoba

In 1872eldest daughter Marie married Lawson WESAWOK aka LACOUETTE at the Catholic Mission at Totogan, the son of Madeline BELHUMEUR and Baptiste WESAWOK-LACOUETTE (1820-1915), one of the two councillors of the White Mud River Band.

Sandy Bay Reserve
1873-1887

In 1873 the Whitemud Reserve and its members were relocated again. This time straight north (to Sandy Bay); and in 1877 these residents were told to move yet again, after the surveyor told them he made a mistake. This time just one mile southeast of where Sandy Bay currently is today (Western shore of Lake Manitoba).

Westbourne History: In July of 1877 Baptiste and his family journeyed up to Sandy Bay to attend the wedding of their daughter Helene and remained there permanently. Helene married William RICHARD, son of Madeleine WEST & William RICHARD (b-1836).

In 1878son Louis married Lisette LACOUETTE in Sandy Bay, daughter of Marie OKANENS and Augustin LACOUETTE (b-1829).

Census of 1881 in Sandy Bay: Saml (?) Baptiste SPENCE, age 70; wife Marie, age 60. Children: Jean Baptiste (age 16) and St Pierre (age 11). ** NOTE: These children are more likely grandchildren. Their correct parentage is uncertain at this time.

Around 1881son John married Magdeline WESAWOK aka LACOUETTE at White Mud River, daughter of Marie OKANENS and Baptiste WESAWOK and sister of Lawson (see above).

On July 21, 1884 theSandy Bay Reserve had its very first elections. Mr. Francois DEMARAIS wins and is the first elected Chief. Baptiste SPENCE (the Elder) and Wah-sah-hook (WICHEWASK – Jean Baptiste SPENCE JR) win for the councilor positions and are the first councilors.

It was in 1887 when Baptiste applied for his Half-breed Scrip he was still living in Sandy Bay.

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Jean Baptiste SPENCE SR Dies at Ste. Rose Du Lac
1889

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In the early spring of 1889, sons Jean Baptiste Jr, Louis and Johnny from Sandy Bay, and a few other Metis from St Vital established themselves asthe first residents of what was to be known as Ste. Rose du Lac. On April 28, 1889 Jean Baptist SPENCE SR died at St Rose soon after the pioneers arrived there. He was buried the next day.

In the 1901 census, Widow Mary SPENCE (age 90) was recorded living with her grandson Samuel SPENCE in Westbourne. In 1903 she died at Ste Rose du Lac.

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Family Details

Children:
1. 1835 JEAN BAPTISTE SPENCE (m1. Josephte SAUTEUSE, m2. Marie KYIPAYA, m3 Lalouise FISHER)
2. 1852 MARIE SPENCE (m. Lawson WESAWOK aka LACOUETTE)
3. 1854 LOUISON SPENCE (m. Lizette LACOUETTE)
4. 1856 JOHN SPENCE (m. Magdeline WESAWOK aka LCCOUETTE)
5. Jan 10, 1860 HELENE (ELLEN) SPENCE (m. William RICHARD)
6. 1866 ELISE (ELIZA) SPENCE

?7. May 5, 1870 ST PIERRE COOK alias PETER SPENCE (m. Marie MONZINI)

** MORE ABOUT ST PIERRE COOK alias PETER SPENCE

The Roulettes were a Britishrock and roll and beatgroup formed in London in 1961. They were recruited to play as the backing group to singer Adam Faith the following year, and continued to perform and record until the late 1960s.

History[edit]

The group originated among friends at Sutton High School for Boys, including guitarist Peter Thorp. Originally called the Strangers, they were seen by publicist Leslie Perrin, who recommended them to Adam Faith's manager Eve Taylor. Faith was looking for a touring band that would enable him to perform similar music to that of the beat bands then emerging from Merseyside. Renamed as the Roulettes, the band - then comprising Peter Thorp, Martin Blackwell, Tony Burgess and John Roberts - first performed with Faith at the Royal Albert Hall in September 1961.^[1]

The group toured widely with Faith between 1961 and 1963, with several changes of personnel, and recorded one unsuccessful single for Pye, 'Hully Gully Slip'n'Slide'. By early 1963, the group comprised Thorp (guitar), John Rogers (bass), Bob Henrit (drums), and Russ Ballard (guitar and keyboards). They recorded a lengthy series of short 15-minute shows with Adam Faith for Radio Luxembourg. John Rogers was killed in a car crash in May 1963; he was replaced by John 'Mod' Rogan, previously of Hartlepool group the Hartbeats. They began recording with Adam Faith - who had previously recorded with session musicians - for the Parlophone label, and their records were credited to 'Adam Faith with The Roulettes'.^[1] They enjoyed a run of charthits in the mid-1960s, including the UK chart hits; 'The First Time', 'We Are in Love', 'I Love Being in Love With You', 'If He Tells You', and 'Someone's Taken Maria Away'.

They also recorded in their own right for Parlophone, recording several early compositions by Chris Andrews, though none of their singles reached the charts. Their only album Stakes And Chips was released in 1965 with similar success. As well as backing Adam Faith on record, they accompanied him on tour until October 1965, most notably backing him on a 'Live' album.^[2] Early in 1967 they joined the Philips Fontana label but still the charts eluded them, although they toured Europe until later that year when the group split up.^[3]

Band members Russ Ballard and Bob Henrit went on to join Unit 4 + 2 formed by original Roulettes' member Brian Parker (on whose 1965 number onesong, 'Concrete and Clay', they had both previously played); the two would later also become members of rock band Argent. In addition Ballard had later success as a soloartist and songwriter, whilst Henrit became a renowned session drummer and also replaced The Kinks' long serving drummer Mick Avory in their later years.

Adam Faith's song 'Cowman, Milk Your Cow' was written by Bee Gees members Barry and Robin Gibb on which the Roulettes (Ballard, Rogan and Henrit) played, Fleetwood Mac's Peter Green also played guitar on the song.^[4]

Members[edit]

• Peter Thorp – lead guitar, rhythm guitar (born 25 May 1944, Wimbledon, South West London) (replaced Parker in the band)
• Brian Parker – lead guitar (born Brian William Parker, 1940, Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, died 17 February 2001) (though left within short space of time)
• Johnny Rogers – bass guitar (born John Rogers, 1941, Hertfordshire, died 27 May 1963, Lincolnshire from injuries sustained in a car crash)
• Alan 'Honk' Jones – saxophone
• Norman Stracey – rhythm guitar, also keyboards (born Norman Henry Stracey, 1941, Ware, Hertfordshire) (replaced Jones in the band when a saxophone player was no longer required) Alan Jones actually left the Roulettes by choice. He was not “no longer required”
• Bob Henrit – drums (born Robert John Henrit, 2 May 1944, Broxbourne, Hertfordshire)
• Russ Ballard – March 1963 onwards, keyboards, later lead guitar and lead vocals (born Russell Glyn Ballard, 31 October 1945, Waltham Cross, Hertfordshire) (replaced Stracey in the band, was recruited to play keyboards but was soon sharing lead guitar with Thorp)
• John 'Mod' Rogan – bass guitar, May 1963 onwards (born John George Rogan, 3 February 1944, Hartlepool, County Durham) (replaced Rogers following his unfortunate demise)

See also[edit]

References[edit]

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1. ^ ^abEddy Bonte, 'Soon You'll Be Leaving Me', Shindig! magazine, issue 84, October 2018
2. ^Tobler, John (1992). NME Rock 'N' Roll Years (1st ed.). London: Reed International Books Ltd. p. 151. CN 5585.
3. ^Biography, Allmusic.com
4. ^Brennan, Joseph. 'Gibb Songs: 1967'. Retrieved 18 December 2014.

External links[edit]

• The Roulettes biography at Allmusicwebsite